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Understanding Jim's Tranny Marriage: A Scientific Approach

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Q: What is a tranny?

A: There are two different types of trannies.


The two types of transsexuals who begin life as males are called homosexual and autogynephilic. Once understood, these names are appropriate. Succinctly put, homosexual male-to-female transsexuals are extremely feminine gay men, and autogynephilic transsexuals are men erotically obsessed with the image of themselves as women.

1. homosexual transsexuals

When most people hear “transsexual” they think of the homosexual transsexual, who fits the classic pattern. From soon after birth, the homosexual male-to-female transsexual behaves and feels like a girl. Unlike most feminine boys (such as Danny, from Chapter 3), these transsexuals do not outgrow, or learn to hide, their femininity. Instead, they decide that the drastic step of changing their sex is preferable. They unambiguously desire and love men, especially heterosexual men, whom they can attract only as women. (I recognize that using the term “homosexual” to describe a type of transsexual is confusing. Transsexualism terminology is often confusing. I often have to think hard about whether to write “he” or “she,” for example. In this case, there is scientific precedent—“homosexual transsexualism” was proposed by the scientist who first discovered that there were two types of transsexuals. The term also is conceptually revealing, because one type of transsexual man is a kind of homosexual man.

2. autogynephilic transsexuals

Honest and open autogynephilic transsexuals reveal a much different pattern. They were not especially feminine boys. The first overt manifestation of what led to their transsexualism was typically during early adolescence, when they secretly dressed in their mothers’ or sisters’ lingerie, looked at themselves in the mirror, and masturbated. This activity continued into adulthood, and sexual fantasies became increasingly transsexual—especially the fantasy of having a vulva, perhaps being penetrated by a penis. Autogynephilic transsexuals might declare attraction to women or men, to both, or to neither. But their primary attraction is to the women that they would become.

Source: The Man Who Would Be Queen: THE SCIENCE OF GENDER-BENDING AND TRANSSEXUALISM (J. Michael Bailey, 2003)


Q: Why did Jim marry a tranny?

A: Jim married a tranny because he himself is a partial autogynephile (explained above), who instead of becoming a tranny himself lives out his tranny fantasies through other people. This rare gynandromorphophilic subtype is still somewhat poorly understood.


My first time at the Baton, I too was wowed by the accomplished female impersonations. But the most interesting part of the experience involved the audience. One man who sat close to the stage, by himself, was the object of derision by the transsexual MC and several of the other performers, during their acts. The performers made gestures indicating that he was dirty or perverse, while the man gazed up at them, seemingly unfazed. At one break, I overheard one of the performers telling him, exasperated, “Of course I still have it!” Only later, when I spoke to several homosexual transsexuals about it, was I able to surmise what was going on. None of the transsexuals I asked had difficulty interpreting the interaction. It was evidently in the realm of experience of all of them, in one way or another.

The man was at the Baton because he was especially attracted to she-males, or transsexuals who live as women but still have their penises. She-males are most often depicted as mostly feminine individuals, with women’s faces, breasts, and absence of facial and body hair, but with functioning and erect penises. She-males are not just an acceptable substitute to this man. They are his preferred targets. Evidently, there is a significant market for she-male sex. Advertisements in pornographic magazines often sell videos or other magazines featuring she-males. About half of the homosexual transsexuals I have met have worked as prostitutes, and the majority of these worked pre- operatively as she-males. One study found that among prostitutes’ solicitations in a Toronto alternative newspaper, about one in twenty was placed by a preoperative transsexual prostitute.

Who are the customers? Are they gay, straight, or bisexual? Are they merely men looking for something exotic? Ray Blanchard is the only researcher who has studied men who are sexually attracted to she-males. (Blanchard calls men with sexual interest in she-males “gynandromorphophiles.” Cher calls them “transie sniffers.” I will stick with “men with sexual interest in she-males.”) In a content analysis of sexual personals advertisements, he found that about half of men who sought she-males were cross-dressers. Blanchard thinks that a significant number of men who want she-males are “partial autogynephiles”—they are primarily aroused to the image of themselves as she- male. Blanchard says that the men are not gay but are more like “scrambled up heterosexual men.” The transsexuals I know who worked as she-male prostitutes confirmed this. “There was nothing gay about those men,” said one, who knows plenty about gay men. There is a rather uneasy symbiosis between the homosexual she- males, on their way to sex reasssignment, and the men who want them at that stage. Juanita, who has been a successful prostitute before and after sex reassignment surgery, says simply “You would have to be crazy to prefer being a she-male prostitute.” According to Juanita, there were several problems with customers who call on she-males. Most annoyingly, they frequently don’t show up for the appointments they scheduled. She thinks the no-shows want something exotic but simply lose their nerve and decide they can’t go through with it. Another thing that irritated Juanita about the customers who called on her when she was a she-male was the way they viewed her. “They considered me their little sex toy and assumed that just because I was a transsexual I would do anything kinky. They didn’t care about me, or even what I looked like. They just wanted to know if my thing worked.” Juanita says that the most frequent unwelcome requests were that she would penetrate them anally, act like a dominatrix, or allow them to cross-dress with her. The most frequent activity that she granted was oral sex (the men sucked Juanita’s penis).

Source: The Man Who Would Be Queen: THE SCIENCE OF GENDER-BENDING AND TRANSSEXUALISM (J. Michael Bailey, 2003)


Q: Seriously, he married a man. That means he's gay.

A: Jim is not gay. Gay men are attracted to masculinity. If Jim was gay, he would have married a regular man, not a man pretending to be a woman. Besides, he has a long history of creeping on regular real women. Jim is twisted pornsick heterosexual man whose marriage is 100% tranny fetish based.



 

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Gay men are attracted to masculinity.
Norton wants a cock in his mouth and asshole so much that he married one. Sounds like he's attracted to masculinity to me.

Having sexual contact with another man is gay.
The tranny is a man.
Therefore, Jimmy having sex with the tranny is gay.

Someone who does gay things is a faggot.
A faggot is not straight.
Jimmy does gay things.
Therefore, Jimmy is a faggot and not straight.

QED
 

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Q: What is a tranny?

A: There are two different types of trannies.


The two types of transsexuals who begin life as males are called homosexual and autogynephilic. Once understood, these names are appropriate. Succinctly put, homosexual male-to-female transsexuals are extremely feminine gay men, and autogynephilic transsexuals are men erotically obsessed with the image of themselves as women.

1. homosexual transsexuals

When most people hear “transsexual” they think of the homosexual transsexual, who fits the classic pattern. From soon after birth, the homosexual male-to-female transsexual behaves and feels like a girl. Unlike most feminine boys (such as Danny, from Chapter 3), these transsexuals do not outgrow, or learn to hide, their femininity. Instead, they decide that the drastic step of changing their sex is preferable. They unambiguously desire and love men, especially heterosexual men, whom they can attract only as women. (I recognize that using the term “homosexual” to describe a type of transsexual is confusing. Transsexualism terminology is often confusing. I often have to think hard about whether to write “he” or “she,” for example. In this case, there is scientific precedent—“homosexual transsexualism” was proposed by the scientist who first discovered that there were two types of transsexuals. The term also is conceptually revealing, because one type of transsexual man is a kind of homosexual man.

2. autogynephilic transsexuals

Honest and open autogynephilic transsexuals reveal a much different pattern. They were not especially feminine boys. The first overt manifestation of what led to their transsexualism was typically during early adolescence, when they secretly dressed in their mothers’ or sisters’ lingerie, looked at themselves in the mirror, and masturbated. This activity continued into adulthood, and sexual fantasies became increasingly transsexual—especially the fantasy of having a vulva, perhaps being penetrated by a penis. Autogynephilic transsexuals might declare attraction to women or men, to both, or to neither. But their primary attraction is to the women that they would become.

Source: The Man Who Would Be Queen: THE SCIENCE OF GENDER-BENDING AND TRANSSEXUALISM (J. Michael Bailey, 2003)


Q: Why did Jim marry a tranny?

A: Jim married a tranny because he himself is a partial autogynephile (explained above), who instead of becoming a tranny himself lives out his tranny fantasies through other people. This rare gynandromorphophilic subtype is still somewhat poorly understood.


My first time at the Baton, I too was wowed by the accomplished female impersonations. But the most interesting part of the experience involved the audience. One man who sat close to the stage, by himself, was the object of derision by the transsexual MC and several of the other performers, during their acts. The performers made gestures indicating that he was dirty or perverse, while the man gazed up at them, seemingly unfazed. At one break, I overheard one of the performers telling him, exasperated, “Of course I still have it!” Only later, when I spoke to several homosexual transsexuals about it, was I able to surmise what was going on. None of the transsexuals I asked had difficulty interpreting the interaction. It was evidently in the realm of experience of all of them, in one way or another.

The man was at the Baton because he was especially attracted to she-males, or transsexuals who live as women but still have their penises. She-males are most often depicted as mostly feminine individuals, with women’s faces, breasts, and absence of facial and body hair, but with functioning and erect penises. She-males are not just an acceptable substitute to this man. They are his preferred targets. Evidently, there is a significant market for she-male sex. Advertisements in pornographic magazines often sell videos or other magazines featuring she-males. About half of the homosexual transsexuals I have met have worked as prostitutes, and the majority of these worked pre- operatively as she-males. One study found that among prostitutes’ solicitations in a Toronto alternative newspaper, about one in twenty was placed by a preoperative transsexual prostitute.

Who are the customers? Are they gay, straight, or bisexual? Are they merely men looking for something exotic? Ray Blanchard is the only researcher who has studied men who are sexually attracted to she-males. (Blanchard calls men with sexual interest in she-males “gynandromorphophiles.” Cher calls them “transie sniffers.” I will stick with “men with sexual interest in she-males.”) In a content analysis of sexual personals advertisements, he found that about half of men who sought she-males were cross-dressers. Blanchard thinks that a significant number of men who want she-males are “partial autogynephiles”—they are primarily aroused to the image of themselves as she- male. Blanchard says that the men are not gay but are more like “scrambled up heterosexual men.” The transsexuals I know who worked as she-male prostitutes confirmed this. “There was nothing gay about those men,” said one, who knows plenty about gay men. There is a rather uneasy symbiosis between the homosexual she- males, on their way to sex reasssignment, and the men who want them at that stage. Juanita, who has been a successful prostitute before and after sex reassignment surgery, says simply “You would have to be crazy to prefer being a she-male prostitute.” According to Juanita, there were several problems with customers who call on she-males. Most annoyingly, they frequently don’t show up for the appointments they scheduled. She thinks the no-shows want something exotic but simply lose their nerve and decide they can’t go through with it. Another thing that irritated Juanita about the customers who called on her when she was a she-male was the way they viewed her. “They considered me their little sex toy and assumed that just because I was a transsexual I would do anything kinky. They didn’t care about me, or even what I looked like. They just wanted to know if my thing worked.” Juanita says that the most frequent unwelcome requests were that she would penetrate them anally, act like a dominatrix, or allow them to cross-dress with her. The most frequent activity that she granted was oral sex (the men sucked Juanita’s penis).

Source: The Man Who Would Be Queen: THE SCIENCE OF GENDER-BENDING AND TRANSSEXUALISM (J. Michael Bailey, 2003)


Q: Seriously, he married a man. That means he's gay.

A: Jim is not gay. Gay men are attracted to masculinity. If Jim was gay, he would have married a regular man, not a man pretending to be a woman. Besides, he has a long history of creeping on regular real women. Jim is twisted pornsick heterosexual man whose marriage is 100% tranny fetish based.



I agree with everything but your final analysis, Jim is gay, he's fucking a man. If Alena pretended to be superman no one would think Jim is fucking a superhero. There's no difference here, pretending is fake, never give pretending any agency
 

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All that fuckin gobbledygook to get to the wrong conclusion.
Yeah, we're not talking about dainty lil' Sue here. All jstorm talked about before this beautiful union was his bride's giant meaty cock, yuge feet and intoxicating taint scent. Even in the wedding photo James posted, he's at least one bald head shorter than the tranny:
 

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Norton wants a cock in his mouth and asshole so much that he married one. Sounds like he's attracted to masculinity to me.

Having sexual contact with another man is gay.
The tranny is a man.
Therefore, Jimmy having sex with the tranny is gay.

Someone who does gay things is a faggot.
A faggot is not straight.
Jimmy does gay things.
Therefore, Jimmy is a faggot and not straight.

QED
I agree with everything but your final analysis, Jim is gay, he's fucking a man. If Alena pretended to be superman no one would think Jim is fucking a superhero. There's no difference here, pretending is fake, never give pretending any agency
Allow me to retort...

There's no need to pretend a man is a woman to see the issue.

Man #1 is married with kids. He spends all his free time jerking off to gay porn. When he has sex with his wife/beard, he fantasies about having sex with other men. He secretly collects barbie dolls and enjoys upbeat musicals.

Man #2 is sent to prison for life at age 18 before ever having sex. In prison, he spends all his time thinking about women. Sometimes he gets his dick sucked by effeminate gay twinks, and when he does, he closes his eyes and fantasies about having sex with women. He likes talking about football and vintage muscle cars with big engines and reading about German WW2 tanks.

Which one of these men is gay?

According to this sentiment the flaming closeted gay man is totally straight and the clearly heterosexual man in prison is an absolute faggot.

I would argue this simply does not cut it if we wish to understand these men. In fact, it completely misses the underlying deeper sexual psychology and motivations of these men.

I'm more interested in the political implications of all this. Insisting on lumping the autogynephile trannies in with gay people is exactly what the fetishists want and very counter productive.
 

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Allow me to retort...

There's no need to pretend a man is a woman to see the issue.

Man #1 is married with kids. He spends all his free time jerking off to gay porn. When he has sex with his wife/beard, he fantasies about having sex with other men. He secretly collects barbie dolls and enjoys upbeat musicals.

Man #2 is sent to prison for life at age 18 before ever having sex. In prison, he spends all his time thinking about women. Sometimes he gets his dick sucked by effeminate gay twinks, and when he does, he closes his eyes and fantasies about having sex with women. He likes talking about football and vintage muscle cars with big engines and reading about German WW2 tanks.

Which one of these men is gay?

According to this sentiment the flaming closeted gay man is totally straight and the clearly heterosexual man in prison is an absolute faggot.

I would argue this simply does not cut it if we wish to understand these men. In fact, it completely misses the underlying deeper sexual psychology and motivations of these men.

I'm more interested in the political implications of all this. Insisting on lumping the autogynephile trannies in with gay people is exactly what the fetishists want and very counter productive.
Both of them are fags and should be stoned to death, how about that?

"Oh he was fucking kids but he was thinking about adults the whole time, he's not a pedophile!"

Norton may be """straight""" in his wormy little head but his actions are that he's a gleeful bottom for a viking.
 
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I'm more interested in the political implications of all this.
There are huge political implications in even entertaining the thought that this should be approached from a "scientific" standpoint. The whole western world is obsessed with quantifying things, trying to pin every disordered behavior down to biological reasons, denying free will, etc.

That immediately disregards the opinions of huge parts of society but they're shrugged off as relics of a bygone era. Or mocked for being stupid, whatever.
 
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