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Resto is treading on very thin ice

CarolMaxheinie

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If he continues to pursue this case, which his client has already admitted is frivolous, and which is founded completely on evidence now known to be fabricated, he could get in trouble.

He also claimed we all live in WI just so Ashley would allow this to continue, and that has now been proven to be a conscious lie. Patrick also illegally obtained identifying info (albeit for the wrong people), further incriminating Resto as his council.

Resto is either really stupid or really reckless if he doesn't pull out at this point. There are plenty of other fat rubes to milk money from who won't pull his career down with them.
Good point. I wonder if Minc Law is comfortable with the significant risks they’re taking with the fabricated evidence, use of hacked information in a frivolous case, and arguably lying to Judge Ashley (or, in the best case scenario, extreme ignorance of his case). I realize that Fatrick and his backers have paid a lot of money to the firm, but is disbarment worth it? Minc Law, comment?
 

Clint Ruin

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Good point. I wonder if Minc Law is comfortable with the significant risks they’re taking with the fabricated evidence, use of hacked information in a frivolous case, and arguably lying to Judge Ashley (or, in the best case scenario, extreme ignorance of his case). I realize that Fatrick and his backers have paid a lot of money to the firm, but is disbarment worth it? Minc Law, comment?

Grounds for disbarment:

For the commission of any act involving moral turpitude, dishonesty, or corruption, whether the same be committed in the course of his or her relations as an attorney or counselor at law, or otherwise, and whether the same constitute a felony or misdemeanor or not; and if the act constitute a felony or misdemeanor, conviction thereof in a criminal proceeding shall not be a condition precedent to disbarment or suspension from practice therefor.
 

CarolMaxheinie

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Grounds for disbarment:

For the commission of any act involving moral turpitude, dishonesty, or corruption, whether the same be committed in the course of his or her relations as an attorney or counselor at law, or otherwise, and whether the same constitute a felony or misdemeanor or not; and if the act constitute a felony or misdemeanor, conviction thereof in a criminal proceeding shall not be a condition precedent to disbarment or suspension from practice therefor.

I would say Federal hacking charges qualify for a disbarment hearing, but Quasi would probably need to press charges to it to stick.

***Tin foil hat thermite paint speculation time**

Bresto, knowing his silly little career is in peril from several giant missteps in this case, approached Fatso and told him they need to quietly settle with Quasi. Fatso, being advised that the LOLsuit has gone nowhere and never will, agreed on the condition that the “idiots” can’t know that we won. That’s what the NDA was. Look at who benefits:

- Quasi gets this over with and gets his legal fees paid and an agreement of no further action from Fatass or the SFWA (or whoever is paying Fatass’ bills). Quasi is the man.
- Fatso gets to sign an NDA and feel like a big boy. Due to the settlement being sealed, he can claim victory even though he lost. When challenged, he can correctly (and obesely) point to the NDA
- Bresto is the big winner because Minc still gets paid but his alleged illegal use of hacked information, his prevarications to Ashley, and any other chicanery related to the LOLsuit is swept away. His legal ‘career’ survives to wipe more predators’ records from the internet, endangering children and future victims…but hey, he gets paid so he doesn’t care.

The pieces seem to fit. We may or may not know more in a week. Thoughts?
 

IGotATreeOnMyHouse85

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It’s why Resto wants this shit to end ASAP, he even told Judge Ashley it’s very likely this will be tossed out in Cali which will end everything. He wasn’t even upset about it, just “yeah my clients case is dead in the water, we have nothing after a year, and we’re just running the clock out” while Judge Fudge did his best “sheeeeet” face for the hundredth time. Resto did some sneaky shit (probably not the first time) and assumed nobody would fight back and didn’t expect his retard of a client to spill private information to a guy claiming to be a reporter. He’s in deep and needs this to end.
 

Clint Ruin

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I would say Federal hacking charges qualify for a disbarment hearing, but Quasi would probably need to press charges to it to stick.

***Tin foil hat thermite paint speculation time**

Bresto, knowing his silly little career is in peril from several giant missteps in this case, approached Fatso and told him they need to quietly settle with Quasi. Fatso, being advised that the LOLsuit has gone nowhere and never will, agreed on the condition that the “idiots” can’t know that we won. That’s what the NDA was. Look at who benefits:

- Quasi gets this over with and gets his legal fees paid and an agreement of no further action from Fatass or the SFWA (or whoever is paying Fatass’ bills). Quasi is the man.
- Fatso gets to sign an NDA and feel like a big boy. Due to the settlement being sealed, he can claim victory even though he lost. When challenged, he can correctly (and obesely) point to the NDA
- Bresto is the big winner because Minc still gets paid but his alleged illegal use of hacked information, his prevarications to Ashley, and any other chicanery related to the LOLsuit is swept away. His legal ‘career’ survives to wipe more predators’ records from the internet, endangering children and future victims…but hey, he gets paid so he doesn’t care.

The pieces seem to fit. We may or may not know more in a week. Thoughts?
I still think the NDA is just a shitty TV appearance. Piggy is pot committed now. He will owe the SFWA plus interest if he loses. I don't think he looks for an exit strategy that saves him face, I think he adopts a "I have to win at all costs, it's the only way I don't lose everything" mentality.
 

IGotATreeOnMyHouse85

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I would say Federal hacking charges qualify for a disbarment hearing, but Quasi would probably need to press charges to it to stick.

***Tin foil hat thermite paint speculation time**

Bresto, knowing his silly little career is in peril from several giant missteps in this case, approached Fatso and told him they need to quietly settle with Quasi. Fatso, being advised that the LOLsuit has gone nowhere and never will, agreed on the condition that the “idiots” can’t know that we won. That’s what the NDA was. Look at who benefits:

- Quasi gets this over with and gets his legal fees paid and an agreement of no further action from Fatass or the SFWA (or whoever is paying Fatass’ bills). Quasi is the man.
- Fatso gets to sign an NDA and feel like a big boy. Due to the settlement being sealed, he can claim victory even though he lost. When challenged, he can correctly (and obesely) point to the NDA
- Bresto is the big winner because Minc still gets paid but his alleged illegal use of hacked information, his prevarications to Ashley, and any other chicanery related to the LOLsuit is swept away. His legal ‘career’ survives to wipe more predators’ records from the internet, endangering children and future victims…but hey, he gets paid so he doesn’t care.

The pieces seem to fit. We may or may not know more in a week. Thoughts?
I think you’re on to something here, the NDA means Pat can brag they settled out of court but can’t say “the details” which would be he had to pay money because he lost. This way he can make it sound like he won but oink that he can’t discuss what happened. Pig loves to be vague which is what an NDA will allow. We’ve seen how he lies online yet admits to a reporter off the record that the case was dead from day 1 and has just been a massive waste of time and money. This way he can claim he won and that his place was vandalized even though it’s obvious he’s the person on the camera.
 

Clint Ruin

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I think you’re on to something here, the NDA means Pat can brag they settled out of court but can’t say “the details” which would be he had to pay money because he lost. This way he can make it sound like he won but oink that he can’t discuss what happened. Pig loves to be vague which is what an NDA will allow. We’ve seen how he lies online yet admits to a reporter off the record that the case was dead from day 1 and has just been a massive waste of time and money. This way he can claim he won and that his place was vandalized even though it’s obvious he’s the person on the camera.
Yeah, I said in an earlier thread that if something like that were to happen, he'd respond to every claim that he lost the suit with "I didn't lose, that case was settled", but I really don't see how he can afford it. Dipshit isn't exactly putting money away for the sake of safety, he's constantly buying expensive toys and going on vacations outside the country. Being on the hook for legal fees will cramp that already tough sell of "I'm a successful author". He hasn't listened to his lawyers yet through this thing, he'll keep going until the SFWA cuts him off I think.
 

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My thoughts are Quasi won't agree to a settlement, not if it means shutting down the forum unless he already had s backup.

Skepticism regarding Quasi's plans and motives is normal, but at this point I think we have to give him the benefit of the doubt here based on what he's done for us so far.

The NDA could be for anything, it could be a No Daughters Allowed form for all we know.
With the SFWA funding this we’ve seen how he treats other people’s money. To him it doesn’t matter if he owes 100k or 500k because it’s not “his” money. He bragged to the interview about not spending a penny because in his deranged mind that money isn’t real. His whole life has been spending other peoples money with zero consequences which he believes will happen when it’s thrown out. Even though it’s very clear that SFWA will be looking for their money we know piggy believes he’s a very special boy and rules don’t apply to him.
 

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Yeah, I said in an earlier thread that if something like that were to happen, he'd respond to every claim that he lost the suit with "I didn't lose, that case was settled", but I really don't see how he can afford it. Dipshit isn't exactly putting money away for the sake of safety, he's constantly buying expensive toys and going on vacations outside the country. Being on the hook for legal fees will cramp that already tough sell of "I'm a successful author". He hasn't listened to his lawyers yet through this thing, he'll keep going until the SFWA cuts him off I think.
Exactly, he doesn’t see the SFWA as real money because he’s been spending other peoples money for years. He’s been told by his lawyers many times to not engage the trolls only to say he’s an expert at responding to trolls. He believes he’s a very special and important person and believes the whole “pay back lost court cases” doesn’t apply to him. Even then he will just go to Niki’s mom because it’s always other peoples money to Pat.
 
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Grounds for disbarment:

For the commission of any act involving moral turpitude, dishonesty, or corruption, whether the same be committed in the course of his or her relations as an attorney or counselor at law, or otherwise, and whether the same constitute a felony or misdemeanor or not; and if the act constitute a felony or misdemeanor, conviction thereof in a criminal proceeding shall not be a condition precedent to disbarment or suspension from practice therefor.
I'm pretty sure I saw some turpitude
 

Clint Ruin

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With the SFWA funding this we’ve seen how he treats other people’s money. To him it doesn’t matter if he owes 100k or 500k because it’s not “his” money. He bragged to the interview about not spending a penny because in his deranged mind that money isn’t real. His whole life has been spending other peoples money with zero consequences which he believes will happen when it’s thrown out. Even though it’s very clear that SFWA will be looking for their money we know piggy believes he’s a very special boy and rules don’t apply to him.
Yeah, I don't know why he or anyone else acts like SFWA isn't going to come around looking for their shit back. There's a lot of people in that organization, and it sets a terrible precedent letting one of them go hogwild with the legal fund in a loser of a case that had no chance and they get left holding the bag. There is no way in hell they let their members think "I can piss away all their money in frivolous lawsuits and there will be no consequences for me".
 

CarolMaxheinie

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My thoughts are Quasi won't agree to a settlement, not if it means shutting down the forum unless he already had s backup.

Skepticism regarding Quasi's plans and motives is normal, but at this point I think we have to give him the benefit of the doubt here based on what he's done for us so far.

The NDA could be for anything, it could be a No Daughters Allowed form for all we know.
I’m not saying Quasi agreed to shut down the site though. He has been a warrior and i would never question his motives or judgment. We all owe him for standing up for free speech. I’m speculating that he won- site stays, no more vexatious litigation, fees paid - and in exchange he agrees to sign an NDA about the settlement. It gives Piggy 🐷 a way to avoid total legal annihilation and lets Bresto meekly limp away without risking his bar card. I just want to be clear that I’m grateful to Quasi and think he’s as handsome as he is courageous.
 
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