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Literary faggot

NoBacon

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PogromStallone

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He successfully did to Tolkien what Rick tried to do Douglas Adams and failed miserably. It’s the literary equivalent of a cover band.
I struggle to see how Martin's works is like a "cover band" for Tolkien. They don't really share any similarities and Martin was clearly inspired by history a hell of a lot more than he was by fiction.
 

ISO__JOE

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I struggle to see how Martin's works is like a "cover band" for Tolkien. They don't really share any similarities and Martin was clearly inspired by history a hell of a lot more than he was by fiction.

Woah! So just like Tolkien did where everything was an allegory for WW2 in a fantasy setting. If Tolkien never wrote those books then GRRM never would’ve been successful, period. He’s a fat faggot with bitch tits and a hack.
 

Libby Son Of Loin

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Woah! So just like Tolkien did where everything was an allegory for WW2 in a fantasy setting. If Tolkien never wrote those books then GRRM never would’ve been successful, period. He’s a fat faggot with bitch tits and a hack.
Tolkien told a mostly coherent story that branches into 2 arcs, while keeping the expansive history in a handful of appendices, as he was still working on the Silmarillion

Martins gimmick is to make the plot so convoluted with way too many characters than anyone could bother to care about and stretch it out to the length of an encyclopedia just so faggots could cream about how superficially deep it is.
 

Harry Powell

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Definitely but those first 3 books are as good as fantasy can be.
He should have stopped after 3 and just said it’s up to you to decide what happened next, I’m gonna focus on other shit.

I maintain that the 3rd book, as an inseparable and linked culmination of the previous two, is a fucking masterpiece of the genre.
 

Harry Powell

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Tolkien told a mostly coherent story that branches into 2 arcs, while keeping the expansive history in a handful of appendices, as he was still working on the Silmarillion

Martins gimmick is to make the plot so convoluted with way too many characters than anyone could bother to care about and stretch it out to the length of an encyclopedia just so faggots could cream about how superficially deep it is.
I disagree with regard to books 1-3. Despite the complexity of the plot and the multitude of characters it’s coherent and largely narratively clear. He was laying groundwork for paring down characters and condensing plot lines with story arc conclusions in the third one.

Then he BLEW IT. It is in books 4 and 5, specifically 4, that the wheels come completely off.

He needed to stick to his original time skip plan. It was a massive unforced error to change his mind about that.

The harder it becomes for him to shepherd his storylines the more he diverts into “world building”, until it’s so bloated it’s almost impossible to reign in.
 
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He should have stopped after 3 and just said it’s up to you to decide what happened next, I’m gonna focus on other shit.

I maintain that the 3rd book, as an inseparable and linked culmination of the previous two, is a fucking masterpiece of the genre.
The entire second half of that 3rd book is gold.

All his problems started after that book and his inability to figure out setting and pacing in books 4 and 5.

I remember going to a book signing of his, when Storm of Swords came out, and the dude was all fat and old and out of breath from walk down down some stairs. I emailed my brother (cell phones weren't ubiquitous yet) that the guy was going to die and never finish the series. 25 years later I'm surprised he's still alive.
 
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